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Innocents and Others: A Novel Paperback – November 15, 2016

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From Dana Spiotta, the author of Wayward, Eat the Document, and Stone Arabia, “a brilliant novel…about female friendship, the limits of love and work, and costs of claiming your right to celebrate your triumphs and own your mistakes” (Elle).

Innocents and Others is about two women who grow up in LA in the 80s and become filmmakers. Meadow and Carrie have everything in common—except their views on sex, power, movie-making, and morality. Their friendship is complicated, but their devotion to each other trumps their wildly different approaches to film and to life. Meadow was always the more idealistic and brainy of the two; Carrie was more pragmatic. Into their lives comes Jelly, a master of seduction who calls powerful men and seduces them not with sex, but by being a superior listener. All of these women grapple with the question of how to be good: a good lover, a good friend, a good mother, a good artist.

A startlingly acute observer of the way we live now, Dana Spiotta “has created a new kind of great American novel” (
The New York Times Magazine). “Impossible to put down” (Marie Claire), Innocents and Others is “a sexy, painfully insightful, and strangely redemptive novel about the ways we misread one another—with an ending that comes at you like a truck around a blind curve and stays with you for much, much longer” (Esquire).
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"A daring and beautiful meditation about selfishness and selflessness, and how to be in the world. A powerful book that will stay with me." -- George Saunders, author of Tenth of December

“Wondrous and mysterious... Brilliant, and erotic, and pop.” -- Rachel Kushner, author of The Flamethrowers and Telex from Cuba

“Spiotta is emerging as perhaps the major contender for fiction's next generation.” -- Mary Karr, author of The Liar’s Club and Lit

“Flawless and epic.” -- Joshua Ferris, author of To Rise Again at a Decent Hour

“A lithely intelligent, moving inquiry into the mysterious compositions of art and friendships.” -- Jess Walter, author of Beautiful Ruins

A thrillingly complex and emotionally astute novel about fame, power, and alienation steeped in a dark eroticism.” ― Elissa Schappell, Vanity Fair

“The visionary liberty and daring with which Dana Spiotta has crafted her brilliant new novel INNOCENTS AND OTHERS is both
inspirational and infectious. At its heart is a cinematic tale of friendship, obsession, morality, and creativity between best-friend filmmakers Carrie Wexler and Meadow Mori…original and seductive…with INNOCENTS AND OTHERS, [Spiotta] delivers a tale about female friendship, and the limits of love and work, and costs of claiming your right to celebrate your triumphs and own your mistakes.” ― Lisa Shea, Elle

“Impossible to put down.”Steph Optiz, Marie Claire

“Dana Spiotta’s
whip-smart INNOCENTS AND OTHERS maps the unexpected confluence of two rising feminist filmmakers and a movie buff who, posing as a film student, seduces Hollywood men over the phone, simply by listening to them.” ― Marnie Hanel, W

Brilliant…masterful…Spiotta reminds us that the cinema is where America fears and desires have long been projected, the small-town theater an abandoned temple of shared dreams. At the same time, she nails a devastating irony: The more reachable we are, the more screens infiltrate our lives, the less there is that genuinely connects us.” ― Megan O’Grady, Vogue

“A
brilliant split-screen view of women working within and without the world of Hollywood… illuminating… Its moral dimensions feel vast. Once Spiotta has her disparate storylines in motion, they resonate with each other in ways you can’t stop thinking about…The story’s real heart, though, is the tenacious relationship between Meadow and Carrie, the serious documentarian and the Hollywood hitmaker. Working in the tight space of this relatively slim novel, Spiotta explores the remarkable species of sisterhood that survives jealousy and disappointment and even years of neglect. The tension between artistic purity and commercial popularity may tax their affection, but nothing can blot out their shared history, their abiding devotion, the great wonder that is a true friend. Toward the end, Meadow considers how to create a ‘glimpse of the sublime.’ Considering the limits of her medium, she asks herself, ‘Can an image convey something unnameable, impossible, invisible?’ The quiet miracle of this novel is that it does just that.” ― Ron Charles, The Washington Post

Fascinating… the need to connect, the desire for intimacy and friendship, and the quest for meaning in our lives are at the heart of this complex and compelling book… It's difficult not to descend into hyperbole talking about Spiotta's work. She writes with a breezy precision and genuine wit that put her on a short list of brilliant North American novelists who deserve a much wider audience…And it's rare to find a novel that is so much fun and, at the same time, seeks emotional truth with such intellectual rigor; it adds up to an original and strangely moving book.” ― Mark Haskell Smith, Los Angeles Times

Haunting…[Meadow’s] story serves as the intellectual fulcrum of this intimate, unsettling novel, but Jelly provides its emotional heart.” ― Claudia Rowe, The Seattle Times

“Riveting.”Brock Clarke, The Boston Globe

“How the three women’s lives intersect is one of the book’s little miracles. But there is also so much more to this book that defies quick summary: technology and how it creates, bolsters, and distorts identity; making and consuming art; the responsibility and trespassing of representation; friendship; imagination; the fear of being unoriginal.” ―
Edan Lepucki, The Millions

“A brilliant, riddling clip-montage of the friendship between two very different filmmakers… Spiotta’s dramatization of the Meadow-Carrie dyad is masterly, with lines that seem delivered—improvised—by women who’ve known each other and even the reader forever...
Highbrow and lowbrow have cohabitated before, of course, but rarely with this ease or this empathy.”Joshua Cohen, The New York Times Book Review

Spiotta’s idea-driven fiction feels extraordinarily alive because she’s just as interested in the tensions between two artist friends as she is in the friction between morality and creativity or truth and art or identity and time… the dividing line between artist and con artist is a thin and wavering one indeed. But there is no line at all between mind and heart…they can’t, in fact, be separated; every thought ever thought has risen out of a human being capable of loneliness, desire, suffering and laughter. Why settle for a novel of ideas that offers anything less?” ― Laura Miller, Slate

“It’s certain that Spiotta’s audience will keep growing with this stunning novel.”S. Kirk Walsh, The San Francisco Chronicle

“I was dazzled by how this seemingly low-key tale about movie lovers hanging out, falling in and out of love, and playing around with their hobbies and their art, turned out to be so
moving and brilliant. Innocents and Others is a work of art about making art that matters.” ― Jenny Shank, The Dallas Morning News

“Spiotta really wants to explore ideas about art…how do works of art act on us, shaping and sometimes warping our identities?
Innocents and Others is one of those uncanny novels whose characters and ideas linger long after the story is over. In the end, Spiotta’s portrayal of artistic idealism and ambition is unexpectedly moving. As Meadow would say, what a mystery, the way things act on us.” ― Maureen Corrigan, "Fresh Air"

“When it comes to ideas, Spiotta has always operated on an
astounding number of levels at once…she can juggle metaphors and inquiries large and small without ever neglecting her characters or losing narrative momentum.” ― Judy Berman, Flavorwire

“A sexy, painfully insightful, and strangely redemptive novel about the ways we misread one another—and with an ending that comes at you like a truck around a blind curve and stays with you for much, much longer.”Esquire

“Dazzling... Smart and fascinating.”Colette Bancroft, Tampa Bay Times

"
Spiotta has created a new kind of American novel... She writes radiant, concentrated books that, as she has put it, consider 'the way things external to us shape us: money, technology, art, place, history'... Her books are simultaneously vast and local, exploring great American themes (self-invention, historical amnesia) within idiosyncratic worlds (phone phreaks, '80s Los Angeles adolescence). She has been compared with Don DeLillo and Joan Didion, but her tone and mood are distinctly her own: she's fascinated, not alienated." ― Sarah Burton, The New York Times Magazine

"Slippery, original, and uncanny... a work of acute cultural intelligence and moral imagination."Justin Taylor, Bookforum

"Dana Spiotta's interested in the feverish intensity of female friendships, the single-minded focus of obsession, the sudden communions that spring up between strangers." ―
Leah Greenblatt, Entertainment Weekly

"Spiotta is among America's most intriguing novelists."Dotun Akintoye, O, the Oprah Magazine

"National Book Award finalist
Spiotta brings to new levels of feverish intensity her signature dissection of obsession, the trends and ironies of the zeitgeist, how we document our lives, and the consequences of resistance to social imperatives in this ensnaring, sly, and fiercely intelligent novel, from which readers can extract a cineast's dream watch list... Spiotta's deeply inquiring tale is about looking and listening, freedom and obligation, our dire hunger for illusion, and our profound need for friendship." ― Donna Seaman, Booklist, Starred Review

"A
superb, spiky exploration of artistic motivation." ― Kirkus, Starred Review

"Spiotta does a
masterly job of getting under the skin of disparate characters, revealing the kinds of insecurities that plague us all, successful or not." ― Library Journal

About the Author

Dana Spiotta is the author of Innocents and Others; Stone Arabia, A National Books Critics Circle Award finalist; and Eat the Document, a finalist for the National Book Award. Spiotta is a recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship and the Rome Prize for Literature. Her most recent novel is Wayward. She lives in Syracuse, New York.

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Scribner; Reprint edition (November 15, 2016)
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • Paperback ‏ : ‎ 288 pages
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 1501122738
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-1501122736
  • Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 8.3 ounces
  • Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 5.25 x 0.6 x 8 inches
  • Customer Reviews:
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Dana Spiotta is the author of five novels: WAYWARD (2021), INNOCENTS AND OTHERS (2016), a finalist for the Los Angeles Times Book Prize and The St. Francis College Literary Prize; STONE ARABIA (2011), which was a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award; EAT THE DOCUMENT (2006), which was a finalist for the National Book Award; and LIGHTNING FIELD (2001). Spiotta was a Guggenheim Fellow, a New York Foundation for the Arts Fellow, and the 2008 Rome Prize in Literature recipient. She was awarded the 2017 John Updike Prize from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. She lives in Syracuse and teaches in the Syracuse University MFA program.

More information can be found at www.danaspiotta.com

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Reviewed in the United States on March 27, 2016
I've been reading Dana Spiotta's books since I became aware of them, which was when Lightning Field came out, I guess. I'm no English major, nor am I more than a voracious reader. (I know nothing, is what I'm trying to tell you.) So when she is called "experimental" and "post-post-modern" I have no idea what that really means. I find her books infinitely readable. If there's avant-garde stuff going on, it isn't cacophonous enough to interrupt the story or make anything "too hard" to follow and enjoy. I'm not really a film buff, and as such, I got ever-so-slightly irritated with the constant harangue of film intricacies, which may have been the point, actually. Parts of what could easily have become a dry dissertation were done in such clever ways that I was charmed, but not always. I guess this book (like others by Ms. Spiotta) feels slightly fluffy, in that I'm not sure what it gave me that I didn't already have, beyond the story itself -- which is interestingly told if not a life-changer. I just didn't care enough about the characters, which is problematic for me. I was not verklempt when I got to the final page, nor was I dragging the book around with me because I couldn't put it down, but it was pleasant, and perhaps I totally missed the point, since I'm just an average reader. YMMV.
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Reviewed in the United States on April 13, 2016
I had never read a book by Dana Spiotti, but I am definitely ready to read more now . Innocents and Others just popped out to me when I read the description online as though literally looking through a book in a bookstore . I read the whole first chapter before I realized how long I was standing in that spot! I was captivated by the descriptions of just the two main characters , Meadow and Carrie. Both are best friends who obsess over studying and creating their own films ! For a while the real world of film intermingles with the characters of these two . While I will not spoil it for you about how real this store becomes to the truth I must worn you that anyone familiar with film at all will recognize many names and know that the author has done her work or is writing semi- autobiographically.
From here the readers must meet more innocents among the others intertwined in this awesome gothic strangeness mixed with blind handicapped geniuses , and phone sex addicts, along with others just looking for love on all the wrong numbers and where no one ever really knows your name. Although , Meadow may expose your secrets on film never to cause pain again. There is even a murder to be solved with the use of the camera in maybe the style of cinema verite' ! One can never tell whose film techniques these girls will choose to involve.
If you love film , you will definitely find this novel brilliant . Film is a study of people and the world around us as seen and felt in so many ways. To challenge a person to have a camera show what the human eye feels when it sees is the miracle of film. Film can be very powerful in the hands of the wrong people too . This story definitely shows the relationship people have with film in controlling , powerful , manipulative ways as well as using film in charitable , loving and helpful ways. With film the beauty is only in the eye of the holder of the camera. This is a great read ! I read this in 2 days ! Dawn Copley
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Reviewed in the United States on April 28, 2016
I can't figure out why I bought this book. I don't know what I was thinking. If you are interested in the minute details of film making then this book is for you. I found it boring and hard to get through. I gave the book three stars because it's evident that the author is a skilled writer. Unfortunately the story is too disjointed with the two storylines finally joining during the last half of the book. I did finish it but it wasn't an enjoyable read.
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Reviewed in the United States on July 31, 2021
Dana Spiotta’s 2016, “Innocents and Others”, is the second novel of hers’ (after “Stone Arabia”, 2011) I’ve read, and I’m coming to really appreciate her style and voice. I couldn’t put this one down!

“Innocents and Others” is about two young female filmmakers, Meadow and Carrie, who are childhood friends, yet very different from each other. And then there are the characters Jelly, Oz, and Jack…who kind of defy description – plus I don’t want to spoil anything.

As with “Stone Arabia”, I really enjoyed all the “recent history” that Spiotta includes from the 1970s and 80s. (Including an early form of “Catfishing” and “Ghosting” that I found fascinating! And remember obscene phone calls?) I’d classify this as Modern Historical Fiction.
Reviewed in the United States on July 25, 2016
I bought the book because the reviews were outstanding, but it left me cold--not my kind of book. I didn't particularly like the main characters and I couldn't get into the story. I could not 'connect' with the main characters. I got halfway through it and gave up after numerous attempts to plow through it. It bored me, and that doesn't happen often with books. It's possible that it became more interesting toward the end, but I simply couldn't push myself to finish it. I don't understand all the rave reviews; perhaps I'm missing something.
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Alysson Oliveira
5.0 out of 5 stars A realidade pode ser ajustável
Reviewed in Brazil on May 11, 2016
Existe uma fronteira delimitada, no nosso presente, entre a alta cultura e a cultura de massas? Até que ponto um artista pode transitar (impune) entre os dois polos (se é que realmente são dois extremos)? Em seu mais recente livro, INNOCENT AND OTHERS, Dana Spiotta investiga as possibilidades e opções que o mundo oferece a duas amigas de adolescência que se tornam cineastas. O romance começa com um ensaio de Meadow Mori, publicado num site chamado Women and Film, no qual ela narra um suposto affair com Orson Welles, em seus últimos dias de vida. Ela não dá o nome dele, mas as evidencias são conclusivas.

Meadow é a cineasta “séria” do romance. Documentarista premiada, experimental e cult, seu assunto é a realidade. Mas a realidade é passível de apreensão? Seus filmes, ainda que involuntariamente, questionam a tênue fronteira entre ficção e realidade. A seu ver, mesmo que não explicitamente, ela é uma das happy few, com acesso a uma consciência artística e a alta cultura. Ela chegou a dormir com a alta cultura – esse foi seu rito de passagem para a vida adulta.

Carrie Wexler, sua amiga, tem uma trajetória diferente, e acaba fazendo comédias juvenis de sucesso e leves toques feministas. Meadow esnoba, de leve, os filmes da amiga. Mais do que estéticas diferentes, as duas cineastas têm visões de mundo diferentes. Mas o que é mais interessante aqui é que Spiotta não toma partidos, não toma lados, o ponto de vista transita entre as duas.

Em meio a elas ainda há a misteriosa Jelly que mata o tempo fazendo ligações para (homens) profissionais do cinema, e criando laços e desenvolvendo relacionamentos com eles. Não há nada de sexual nas chamadas – pelo contrário, ela quer ouvir os problemas deles, quer ajudá-los.

Spiotta opera a distorção da realidade de suas personagens. Nenhuma, no fundo, é, realmente, aquilo que gostaria de ser, nem mesmo a imagem que vende de si mesma. Curiosamente, a narrativa que se constrói como uma colcha de retalhos materializa as incertezas dessas identidades. O romance combina técnicas de narrativa do gênero a ensaios, roteiros de filmes e críticas. O resultado soa como uma improvável colaboração entre Meadow e Carrie, transitando entre cinema-pipoca e uma prosa extremamente elaborada (sem nunca chamar a atenção para si).
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Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 1, 2018
Great read
Diane
5.0 out of 5 stars For a great read look no further
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on April 29, 2017
Great read.